People who have been seriously wronged by the Watchtower organization or who simply want to leave it, are expected to disappear into the wild blue yonder and keep their mouths shut. They are expected to silently and humbly take whatever lumps they have coming to them. This is a faceless organization and no one in authority has anything tangible to base that authority upon or really knows for sure what to do when someone like Leon goes off the script and wants real answers instead of the platitudes and canned responses read from one of the Watchtower publications. Until now, anyone with a complaint about the Watchtower was a lone voice crying out in the wilderness without a shred of legal recourse. Thankfully however, the internet came along. Gone are the days when these people have to go away and somehow put the pieces of their shattered lives back together on their own. They now have a voice and this distraught man is making sure his story heard. The trouble is, years of mistreatment combined with the hurt and frustration of being shunned for speaking out about it, can make an otherwise rational person lash out wildly. These soft spoken people in their suits and ties and their thinly veiled disdain of anyone who dares speak against them, use this to their advantage. They are well rehearsed in keeping up an appearance of mildness and control but they are amateurs at everything else. They are often Janitors, Carpenters and Tradesmen who have little or no education and no secular training in helping people with real life problems. They dare to tread into matters that should be dealt with by highly trained professionals. They have the power within the congregation to devastate an individuals personal life and forever alter whole family lineages with their decisions. All this distraught man wants are real answers and an honest acknowledgement that he has indeed been wronged. This situation could have been de-esculated if one of those men simply said to him "Yes Leon, you and many others like you have been wronged and we are sorry for all the years you suffered when you could have been helped had this organization trained us to serve you better, but please let us help you now " . Although I'm sure these men know in their hearts, there is truth in what Leon is saying, they won't ever admit that they or Watchtower organization could have been wrong, for doing so would be opening doors for them personally, that can never be shut again
Pete Zahut
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TROUBLED MAN EXPOSES ELDERS CULT MENTALITY IN DOVER UK
by raymond frantz introubled man exposes elders cult mentality in dover uk.
(watch the video till the end).
breaking in to kingdom halls and disturbing peaceful meetings is hardly the way to go when it comes to positive activism .nevertheless these incidents seem to become more frequent recently as the watchtower vehemently refuses to engage in a meaningful way with the problems of policy and doctrine that seem to trouble many jehovahs witnesses .that, coupled with the ever extending ex- jehovahs witnesses community and their harsh disfellowshiping practises is creating a new era where disturbances of that short will only become more frequent.
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Vomit alert - how many Dubs actually like the noolite .tv?
by hamsterbait inone witless i know actually said "i really like brother lett - his face is soo expressive, the eyebrows go up and he uses his lips to enunciate every word clearly.
and he speaks slowly so it is easy to follow what he is saying.".
another said "iwas so excited after watching the new tv channel.
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Pete Zahut
One witless I know actually said "I really like Brother Lett - his face is soo expressive, the eyebrows go up and he uses his lips to enunciate every word clearly. And he speaks slowly so it is easy to follow what he is saying."
I'm not sure if it's true but my understandg is the reason he speaks this way is because he grew up in a household where both parents are deaf and he too is partially deaf. He apparently has always had to enunciate his words slowly for those who read lips and use hands to "sign" and his face to help express the emotion of what he is saying.
If this is true, you'd think he'd use sign language during his broadcasts so everyone could "hear"what his message is directly but then again it might be less distracting to use closed captioning instead.
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JW.bore invades my vacation?!?
by darth frosty injust got back from a cruise and dubs were walking around the boat faithfully wearing their jw.bore pins smdh.
than at cozumel i saw these lovely sisters.
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Pete Zahut
2nd the lazyness IMO it gives to the streetwork/preaching. I came up in the era that you were not preaching unless you were approaching people
I understand what you're saying but that comment reminds me of how old folks say "Back in my day, we had to WALK to school uphill BOTH WAYS !"
Seems like JW's can't win....they're pushy if they approach people or their lazy if they just wait for the people to approach them.
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What do you want for Christmas?
by Hortensia init's ok to share your xmas wishes here -- none of us is going to buy you anything, anyway!.
i have a list of books on my wishlist at amazon, some about critical thinking, some about knitting, some about yurok indian basketry.
i wouldn't mind getting any of those.
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Matthew 24:19-21
by Pete Zahut inbut woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days!
and pray that your flight be not in the winter, neither on a sabbath for then shall be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be.. this scripture was always used to frighten us about the upcoming great tribulaton.
when i was in high school my late mother found out she was pregnant with my youngest sister.
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Pete Zahut
But woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days! And pray that your flight be not in the winter, neither on a sabbath for then shall be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be.
This scripture was always used to frighten us about the upcoming great tribulaton. When I was in high school my late Mother found out she was pregnant with my youngest sister. (surprise!) A car group of Sisters from the Hall stopped by our house to use the restroom. They stayed (and stayed) for coffee and I remember them quoting that scripture to my already aprehensive Mom. I wanted to clobber them. My non JW Dad came home from work and had to talk my Mom down off the ceiling. That was over 30 years ago, and my Mother often said after us older ones moved out on our own, that she couldn't imagine not having had my youngest sister...they were the best of friends. She said she wished she'd have enjoyed her last pregnancy instead of worrying about getting us kids and a new baby through the tribulation.
Looking at this scripture now, it sounds as if one prays enough one could influence when it happened and it doesn't seem to fit any application to Gods modern day people seeing as how it mentions the Sabbath.
Does anyone remember how they linked this to the (long time coming) Great Tribulation?
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How to capitalise on recent unwise appointment with my wife.
by disposable hero of hypocrisy ina brother was appointed recently in the cong, he's got a dodgy history, doesn't really have the respect of many in the cong.
it's surprising to me, but i don't really care, good for him.
my wife, on the other hand, is angry!
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Pete Zahut
You could say to your wife something like....
" I've heard some Witnesses say "It's a perfect orginaziation run by imperfect men" so one could understand how someone like Brother X could be wrongly appointed. The trouble is, thousands are shunning their family members and former friends who may have been wrongly disfellowshipped by men like Brother X , who were wrongly appointed to a position of authority. It's scary when you realize that 8 million people worldwide have planned their entire lives around the directives made by imperfect men who they've never met and are ready to die if they need a blood transfusion for example. Especially after all these decades, these men have decided to allow blood fractions....hopefully, for the parents who's children have died, they won't decide that the rest of their understanding on the blood issue is wrong as well. Anyway, I guess only time will tell."
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3 JWs injured whilst Cart Witnessing
by Listener inhttps://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/25697590/three-injured-as-car-hits-park-bench/.
an elderly driver crashed into a park bench in mandurah, western australia today where 3 jws were sitting.
they had set up their jw cart and their literature was also strewn across the ground.. one of the jws was seriously injured with head injuries.. what a freak accident this is.. .
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Pete Zahut
The picture indicates that the angels are sheilding the Witnesses from Satan and nothing more. Unforseen occurances such as cars careening into literature carts aren't included but most JW's have a sense that they are safer while at meetings, in service or at assemblies. Many examples have been given over the years of those who were spared from or who were victims of disasters, based on whether or not they were in attendance at a JW meeting or assembly. They say Jehovah's spirit is directing the praching activity and they went as far as to indicate that his spirit sometimes leads JW's to the door of individuals who w contemplating suicide. One could easily assume if he does that, he also prevents accidents such as the one we are discussing.
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No, I'm not mad at you (JWs)
by skeeter1 ini got a call today from jw relative, wondering why i haven't answered correspondance.. no, i haven't called or written some jws in my life for a while.
i have chosen to not respond, or not quickly respond, to their inquiries.
yes, i've even blocked some from my social media and e-mail accounts.
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Pete Zahut
What you are dealing with here are those certiain "friends" and relatives most of us have, who die a little bit inside each time we have some sort of success. You distance yourself from them yet they pop in from time to time just to remind themselves how much they resent you. They are often looking for you to say something that will justify this resentment.
Give them blank vague non committal answers and hope they get a clue and their contact with you becomes less and less frequent.
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My dog just died.
by panhandlegirl ini just buried my beloved poddle, little brother.
he died suddenly.
i know to most people that is not an important event.
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Pete Zahut
I love my furry tail waggin' best friend and he loves me no matter what. He comes to work with me every day and he is a uniting force in our office and on the job sites I visit each day. I know well from past experience the pain you speak of when a pet dies and I really took that into consideration when getting my current dog. In the end, I decided that although giving my heart over to another pet will ultimately result in a big sadness down the road, it is better to have experienced the good years with him and the joy of providing a happy life for him, than to have missed out on all that just because I wanted to sheild myself from experiencing future sadness.
The thing I have to remember about animals is not to project my own feelings onto them. They are not sentimental like we are, they pretty much live in the moment and accept things at face value. They don't reflect on the big picture meaning behind everything they experience and perhaps that's why we enjoy them so much. It wouldn't be much fun to have a pet that worried about the future or whether or not there was an afterlife, held grudges or moped over things in the past or was always looking for ulterior motives. Sounds like your little poodle had a good life with you and you both enjoyed eachother and you have to be thankful for that even though it wasn't for as long as you'd hoped.
Time will be a friend to you in your loss and in time you'll adjust maybe even to the point of maybe wanting to give another animal a good home and a good life.
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Window-washer is the cover of Feb 2015 WT, "How to enjoy your work!" Hahaha!!
by EndofMysteries in.
after all the jokes and satire on this website about jw's only being able to amount to window washers and house cleaners, the cover page of "how to enjoy your work" showing a window washer and cleaner in the back ground.
i almost wonder if some awakened, still-in, from this site is part of the writing department or illustrations and put that in there as an inside joke for us?.
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Pete Zahut
When I saw this picture, I wasn't thinking of these people as being secular employees on the job. The first thing that came to mind was that they were volunteer workers at the Assembly Hall, Kingdom Hall or at Bethel. Maybe they are priming everyone to volunteer during a big campaign they might have planned for fixing up Watchtower properties so they can be sold.